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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 4 May 95 19:47:00 CDT    Volume 15 : Issue 224

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Caller ID Nationally and FCC Order (Lynne Gregg)
    Good Grief - Caller ID is Back! ([e-mail])
    Re: Can Someone Explain DID in English? (Marshall Leathers)
    For Sale: Combinet 56K Bridges and Shiva NetModems (Cheryl Van
Winkle)
    Overhead Paging Advice Wanted (Tammy Fischbach)
    Subscription Details Wanted For "Telephony" (Nirad Sharma)
    Re: Comm Problems With USR Sportster V.34 (Doug Snyder)
    Re: Comm Problems With USR Sportster V.34 ([e-mail])
    Re: Question - Rotary vs Tone Dialing (John Lundgren)
    Re: Voice Pagers; Where Are They? (Bob Spargo)
    Re: PRI-ISDN Deployment (Jack Warner)
    Re: DTMF/Pulse Converters Wanted ([e-mail])
    Re: International Telephone Number Length - Maximum Allowed (Mark
Cuccia)
    Re: Outgoing Only Phone Line Without Phone Number (John David Galt)
    Re: New Country Code 380 For Ukraine (Mark J. Cuccia)
    Re: New Country Code 380 For Ukraine (Toby Nixon)
    Re: Taking my Laptop to the UK (John Nice)
    Re: AT&T $5 Minimum Monthly Charge ([e-mail])
    Re: Cross-Border Local Calls (Dave Leibold)

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[e-mail] (Gordon Wilson) wrote:

> So, which states do not have Caller ID (besides California)?

Caller ID is now available in MOST states.  In addition to the
California exception, Caller ID is also not yet found in Alaska and
possibly not yet in Hawaii.  You can find it in most other states, but
service is still quite spotty.  Most of the RBOC CO's are SS7/ISUP
readied, but there are some older switches that can't transmit Calling
Party Number.  Also smaller LEC's and independent carriers may not
have SS7 or newer switch technology that enables CPN transport.

By the way, the FCC Order (and that portion that was "stayed"
pertaining to interexchange of CPN) does not require LEC's or IXC's to
be capable of CPN transport.  The original work ordered that if a
carrier WAS capable of transporting CPN, they do so.  This portion
(and the portion ordering use of only Per Call Blocking) was stayed.
There's no telling when the FCC will pick this up again.


Regards,

Lynne


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: However Lynne, in the next article in
this
issue, someone tells us the FCC *has* picked up on this again, and is
pushing for implementation later this year.   Read on.   PAT]

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This morning the FCC, to my suprise, issued an order mandating
interstate caller ID, "mandating that carriers make available a free,
simple and consistant, per call blocking and unblocking mechanism ...
permits carriers to provide privacy on all calls dialed from a
particular
line, where state policies provide ..." that option. Order is effective
12-1-95.

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DID or Direct Inward Dialling:

A special type of phone line (trunk) provide by the telco which
associates multipule phone numbers with a singe phone line and which
sends a signal down the line with a call arrives which indicates
which numbers was used to place the call.

In some ways DID can be viewed as as the opposite of Caller ID. With
Caller ID the signal indicates which number placed the call (i.e. the
phone number of the orginator of the call.  With DID the signal
indicates which number was dialed (i.e. the phone number of the
destination of the call).

Note, however that the signalling mechanism used for Caller ID is
different from the method used for DID.  In other words, equipment
that can decode the Caller ID signals will not work on a DID trunk.

Historically DID has been used by PBXs that provide direct dialing to
internal extensions.  For example, dialling 555-1201 would ring on
extension 101.  Dialling 555-1202 would come in on the same trunk to the
PBX but the PBX would route the call to extension 102.

Now DID is also used with fax modems and boards to provide routing of
inbound faxes.  Each employee or department is given a different fax
number but all the calls come in on the same DID trunk.  The fax board
(or external DID decode box) decodes the signal from the telco central
office which indicates which number was dialed and used this number
to route the fax to the appropiate user or department.

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We're looking for any information re: overhead paging (loudspeaker
paging) for a 9 story Hospital.  We need to develop a technical RFP to
replace an obselete system.  Any assistance would be appreciated.

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A friend of mine is trying to find out how to subscribe to "Telephony"
but cannot get hold of a copy to get the subscription details (nor can
I).  Can anyone provide the fax number or e-mail address for
subscribing to this periodical?

1.        BRN: 4500218
        TITLE: Telephony
     SUBJECTS: Telephone - Periodicals
  ADDED TITLE: Global telephony
        NOTES: Beginning in 1990 (?) one issue per month called: Global
                telephony
                Full text from Nov. 1987 in: Business periodicals ondisc
                Originally published: Chicago : Chambers-McMeal, 1901-

If replying to this group, please e-mail me a copy as I rarely read this
group.


Thanks,

Nirad Sharma
Computer Science, University of Queensland. 4072.  Australia


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Is {Telephony} still in business? I've
not heard anything from them in ages. They were located here in Chicago
for many years -- almost all their existence -- but I seem to recall
someone saying they had moved a few years ago, possibly to Iowa.  At one
point, going back into the 1930-40 era, {Telephony} was *the* magazine
of the industry. If you had anything to do with the Bell System at all --
and really, that was all you had to do with <g> -- then you read this
weekly journal religiously.  What are they doing now-days?  I do know
that when Harry Newton came along with {Teleconnect} he grabbed the
lion's
share of the readership.   PAT]

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Thor
Stromsnes) wrote:

> I am having some problems with my PPP internet hookup. After about
> 10-15 min online, my V.34 Sportster just "hangs up". I use trumpet
> winsock and netscape software, and I have set the internal baud rate
> to 115.200, in order to handle compession. Is this a hardware problem,
> or what?

My ISP sent a message recently about USR Sportsters and a "new chip".
You
may want to call USR and check.

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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Thor
Stromsnes)
writes:

> I am having some problems with my PPP internet hookup. After about
> 10-15 min online, my V.34 Sportster just "hangs up". I use trumpet
> winsock and netscape software, and I have set the internal baud rate
> to 115.200, in order to handle compession. Is this a hardware problem,
> or what?

Other users of my ISP have reported that ATS56=128 fixes the problem,
and that
it only happens with certain other modems on the other end.

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Richard Cayne ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Does it cost a telephone supplier more or less money to maintain a
rotary
> system over a tone based line?? The telcos charge in Canada a
surcharge for
> tone lines but somehow I believe people who convert are doing them a
favour.
> Would like to get the hard facts on which system is more economical
for
> a telco.

Pac Bell, for years, charged us for Touch Tone, something that I
thought was a big ripoff.  Using TT or DTMF allows the telco switches
to do more with less equipment, so they are benefitting more from it
than the subscribers.  No matter what kind of switch the CO has, the
DTMF converters can be added to it.  The benefit comes from having to
tie up a dialer for less time to complete the call.  So more calls can
be completed by the same amount of equipment.  And since there are a
lot less dialers than phone lines, this is quite a benefit.

And then I got my first modem, a Hayes Smartmodem.  I wasn't paying
for the DTMF "feature", but I had it anyway, since I tried it and it
worked.  A few weeks later I got a letter from Pac Bell telling me
that I was supposed to pay for this, and asked for me to call them in
S.F.  So since I was always at work during the day, and they were
always gone after five, I just called and left voice mail and I played
telephone tag until they gave up.  Of course, I refrained from using
DTMF after that.

Turkeys seem to have had the wool pulled over the California Public
Utilities Commission's eyes, and the ratepayers, too.  I'm glad that
someone woke up a few years ago and realized that they were charging
for something that they shouldn't be.  Now, for the past couple of
years, DTMF has been free, and I don't think anyone uses a pulse phone
anymore.

Except I do, since I have some old rotary wall phones stuck to the wall
of
several of the phone closets at work.  They do come in handy, and I
don't
always have to carry around a butt-in.


N.B. MAIL ADDRESS CHANGES TOMORROW TO [e-mail]
             email address: [e-mail]
           Tel: [phone]     Fax: [phone]


John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs
Rancho Santiago Community College District
17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706
[e-mail]\[e-mail]

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[e-mail] (InterCom) wrote:

> Where can I find out more information on pagers that receive audio
> messages (not cut-through voice-mail pagers, but real voice pagers)?

Voice pagers, once the most popular type, may be making a comeback in
the next few years as the result of some new technology currently
being developed by Motorola and Pagenet.

For today, if you want wide area voice you can shop the Yellow Pages
under Paging Services.  In most markets, usually you can find one or
two service providers that will offer the service -- for a premium
price and often with limited coverage.  Voice is still fairly popular
for on site paging systems (i.e. within a building complex, campus,
etc.).  On site systems can be purchased from many two way radio
dealers (look under Radio Telephone Equipment and Systems in the
Yellow Pages).

For some information on paging (and soon some specific stuff on tone
and voice) check out the new paging section on Motorola's WWW server
at http://www.motorola.com/MIMS/PPG/ (note the caps).


Bob <a paging Motorolan>

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> PRI-ISDN

In most areas IXC's offer PRI -- particularly to PBX. I would contact
AT&T, MCI, Sprint. Also I believe several CAPS offer this service. I
believe TELEPORT is in your area.


Jack Warner

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> I have a need to purchase some conversion equipment.  I need to
> convert rotary digit pulses to DTMF and vice-versa.  If you know of
> such equipment, please post and e-mail me.  We need multiple units.

I know there are at least four companies who sell Pulse/DTMF converters.
I have one working today.  I believe they only convert in one direction
pulse to tone.

Teleliasion in Quebec,  Pika (or Pica) in Toronto, another company in
Isreal and I believe the other is in the UK, these are the only ones I
can
think of.  I can provide address and numbers if you want.  E-mail me at
[e-mail] (business address).

You could also check out some software vendors; AIN development folk.
They
may have something closer to what you want.


peter

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As of now, the MAX for a full international number is 12 digits; This
will increase to a MAX of 15 digits at either the end of this year
(1995)
or at the end of 1996 - I can't remember right now - Most teleco
equipment is designed to handle the max of 12 digits, but when it comes
to PBX's, privately owned payphones, other customer premesis toll
restricting devices, etc. you may run into problems --

The time when the ITU/CCITT states that an internatonal number can be
expanded to a full 15 digits is noted as 'TIME-T'.

Please note that the max of 12 digits presently and 15 digits soon does
NOT
include any carrier access/identification codes, international access
codes,
etc -- it is constructed of EXCLUSIVELY the Country Codes and the full
national destination number -- whatever follows the '+' at the beginning
of
a number.

MARK

+ 1 504 865 5954 (Work Tel)
+ 1 504 241 2497 (Home Tel, forwards to cellphone, forwards to
voicemail)
+ 1 504 865 5917 (Fax, work)

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I like your idea of lines without dialable phone numbers, but I think
you are confused about the number space.

Dialing 01nxxxxxx, where n is a digit in the range 2..9 and xxxxxx is
anything, is not an unused sequence in the US and Canada; it places an
international call, just as if you had dialed 011nxxxxxx, but the lack
of a second "1" means that the call is operator assisted.  010, however,
is an unused sequence (or at least, they don't tell the public how to
use it for anything).


John David Galt

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In the old Distance Dialing Reference Guide (the old Bell System
equivolent of Bellcore's TRA products), 808-998 was a 'mark-sense'
(operator billing code) for Wake and 808-999 was the mark-sense code
for Midway; These assignments were STILL in use as late as 1990/91
according to Bellcore TRA's LERG & Industry Numbering Plan Guide,
however they were NOT included in the December, 1994 issues of these
TRA documents.


MARK

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In TELECOM Digest V15 #220, [e-mail] (Shalom Septimus)
wrote:

>> I compared my country codes list with my list of ISO recognised
>> countries and territories. The shared uses of codes I found were:
>> 672   Shared by 5 territories under Australian control

> Specifically, which? My list has only Cocos/Keeling Is, (6722),
> Norfolk Is. (6723) and Christmas Is. (6724). What are the other 2?  Or
> are Cocos and Keeling two seperate territories, and I'm only missing
> one?

Australia recently moved the Cocos/Keeling Islands to country code 61.
Area accessible through 672 are Norfolk Island, Coral Sea Island
Territories, Christmas Island, and Scott Base and Casey Base in
Antarctica.


Toby

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "ogilvie"
writes:

> Does anybody know what I will need to purchase in order to use my
> lapop in London and surrounding areas?  I think I will need some sort
> of power adaptor and some sort of modem adapter.  If you have any
> suggestions, I would really appreciate hearing them.  Also, does
> anybody know any good PPP internet providers in the UK?

You will need an RJ- to UK adapter.  Available for about Pds.3 from
Tandy (UK for Radio Shack: ubiquitous over here) Your power unit, if
switch-mode, may well cover 100-250 volts.  Check the rating plate.
Otherwise, Tandy sell a small 240-115 stepdown transformer which is
meaty enough to drive a razor or small pc power unit.

> Charles   Please reply via email to: [e-mail]

Surely the point about Usenet is the information is here to be shared.


John Nice

"Whenever I hear the phrase 'Information Superhighway' I reach for my
revolver"

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> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's why it is so silly at times to
> worry about who your carrier happens to be. Just go with whichever one
> offers the biggest rebate checks for switching to them. Not only is
> MCI the largest customer of AT&T, but AT&T is also the largest
customer
> of MCI ...

I'd be interested in hearing where that source of information comes
from.


Iguana


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Each of the carriers leases a large
amount
of the resources and facilities of the other carriers. MCI purchases a
few
million dollars worth of leased circuits from AT&T monthly. If there is
any single customer (a large corporation, I assume) doing more business
with AT&T monthly, I would like to know who they are. Anyone who has
some
actual dollar figures available want to comment on this?    PAT]

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Dale Crouse <[e-mail]> wrote:

> a New York community to Quebec.  At one time I new of toll-free
dialing
> from Portal, North Dakota to North Portal, Saskatchewan.  Does anyone
know
> if this is still true?

I didn't notice this was the case, although Saskatchewan local number
relationships are hard to determine from their phone books. SaskTel
doesn't have the sort of local number charts that most other telcos
have (but I don't usually have many of these books in the basement :-)).

The exchanges involved (from my notes) are:

701-926 Portal ND
306-927 North Portal SK

I believe SaskTel has "protected" 926 (Portal ND's exchange) in the
past,
so that it is not assigned in 306. This provision does not necessarily
mean
local calling has been implemented.

Whether long distance is needed to cross the border is another matter.

> Also, I believe there was toll-free dialing from El Paso, Texas to
Juarez,
Mexico. I'm curious if this is still in effect.

I have found no indications of any U.S.-Mexico cross-border dialing.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Also, what is the relationship between
> Detroit, Michigan and Windsor, Ontario where telephone calls are
> concerned. I don't think it is strictly within a local zone, but isn't
> it handled like a 'suburban' point or for a small extra fee depending
> on the type of monthly service you have?   PAT]

There is no local Windsor-Detroit calling, nor are any special
procedures
indicated in the Windsor Ontario phone books ... nor do I recall seeing
any "suburban" rates or procedures mentioned in any of the Detroit
books I've run across. Windsor subscribers dialing Detroit would have
to dial 1 + 313 + number (or 1 + 810 as the case may be now). Detroit
customers would have to dial 1 + 519 + to reach the Windsor numbers.
From
the Windsor end, I believe the usual Canada-U.S. long distance rates
apply
(though at this distance this means these tolls should be the lowest
possible).

Of course, whether some folks have taken to a do-it-yourself local


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cross-border connection is another question ...


Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730
Internet: [e-mail]


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Is that bizarre case still in effect
where
a certain 'area code' actually terminated in the middle east -- in Saudi
Arabia I think -- for the benefit of some highly placed executives in
the
oil industry?  Does anyone remember those?  I've forgotten what the
dialing codes were/are.    PAT]

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